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		<title>Water</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good Morning! While drinking my hot beverage made from the beans of a tree and paying my water bill I started thinking more about water.  Coffee bean trees grow because of water and my coffee is brewed in water. Water keeps our exquisite Earth alive.  It saves us and our earth from being lifeless mineral [...]]]></description>
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<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://imgfave.com/view/539637"><img style="width: 500px; height: 459px; display: inline;" src="http://imgfave.lg1x8z.simplecdn.net/image_cache/1268304188793060.jpeg" alt="" /></a></div>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">While drinking my hot beverage made from the beans of a tree and paying my water bill I started thinking more about water.  Coffee bean trees grow because of water and my coffee is brewed in water.<br />
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Water keeps our exquisite Earth alive.  It saves us and our earth from being lifeless mineral globs.  Of course, we nor the earth would be alive long if all the earths water was contaminated.  I wonder why we care more about oil,  than clean water?</span></p>
<p><img id="gmi-ResViewSizer_img" style="margin-top: auto; width: 704px; height: 475px;" onclick="DWait.readyLink('jms/pages/superbrowse/master.js', this, function () { GMI.up(this, 'ResourcePageDisplayPane').deviationChangeView(1) })" src="http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs12/f/2006/337/b/8/final_encounter_by_werol.jpg" alt="" width="820" height="553" /></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> The critter above seems to be savoring that little orb of clean water the way I am savoring my coffee right now.  I am a lifeless mineral glob without my Java.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Water plus carbon and a few other minerals makes us.  To give anything life, to keep anything alive it must have water. </span><span style="color: #0000ff;">Someone came up with a way for cars to run on water.  Who would interfere with that technology and why, someone devilish?<br />
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Water is so life giving that I think maybe God is water and we are drilling for &#8211;&gt; well,  you get my point? </span></p>
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		<title>Stop!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you think that an otherworldly influence is trying to get a message to us?   Or am I reading too much in to all the earthquakes and volcanoes.  Religious extremists say that bad things happen because of our heathen ways and disregard for our maker.  George Carlin said the earth is going to shake [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Do you think that an otherworldly influence is trying to get a message to us?   Or am I reading too much in to all the earthquakes and volcanoes.  Religious extremists say that bad things happen because of our heathen ways and disregard for our maker.  George Carlin said the earth is going to shake us off like a bad case of fleas.  I look at these pictures and that is one pissed off volcano wreaking havoc and causing millions to just stop.  Maybe the message is we need to stop for awhile and hang out on cots and talk about stuff with strangers in large rooms. </span></p>
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<p><img style="width: 890px;" src="http://blogs.tampabay.com/.a/6a00d83451b05569e20134800135cc970c-900wi" alt="Iceland_volcano_33" /></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">or else&#8230;</span></p>
<p><img style="width: 890px;" src="http://blogs.tampabay.com/.a/6a00d83451b05569e2013480032c18970c-900wi" alt="AP_ISCK104_ICELAND_VOLCANO" /></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">See more volcano images and havoc at &#8211;&gt;</span> http://blogs.tampabay.com/photo/2010/04/iceland-volcano.html</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">PS:  this woman and her daughters were highlighted in a blog I did in December.  Well&#8230;<br />
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<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><img title="Angie and her daughters" src="../wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Angie-and-her-daughters.jpg" alt="Angie and her daughters" width="604" height="453" /></span></div>
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<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">have been able to spend a few extra days with their soldier/husband/Dad because of the volcanic ash.   It can be a wonderfully mysterious world eh?<br />
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thoughts of this person are worth sharing.  There is a book called The case for God.  I haven&#8217;t read it, yet.  This commentary makes me want to. (the black words are Johannes and the blue words are mine.) Johannes says: October 6, 2009 at 8:18 pm There’s a tendency to disparage people who believe [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The thoughts of this person are worth sharing.  There is a book called The case for God.  I haven&#8217;t read it, yet.  This commentary makes me want to. (the black words are Johannes and the blue words are mine.)<br />
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<p><cite>Johannes</cite> says:</p>
<div><a href="http://knopf.knopfdoubleday.com/2009/09/22/the-case-for-god-by-karen-armstrong/comment-page-1/#comment-35653">October 6, 2009 at 8:18 pm</a></div>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">There’s a tendency to disparage people who believe in God as weak, groveling sheep.</span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Kindness is often equated to weakness as well.</span><span style="color: #000000;"> It’s easier to debunk only evangelical Christianity, rather than Judaism or Islam or Hinduism or the Quakers or Gnostic tradition or Episcopalians. But let us not forget that Western mathematicians Goedel, Newton, Gauss or scholars like Emerson, Kierkegaard, and more had their own particular way of discovering what God meant </span><span style="color: #000000;">to them. </span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Kierkegaard was an affluent depressed Danish philosopher who wrote some very interesting papers on faith.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">He loved his woman so much that he didn&#8217;t marry her.  He didn&#8217;t want her to have to deal with his depression.  <span style="color: #0000ff;"> </span></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">He wrote that<strong> faith can only exist where there is doubt</strong>.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">You don&#8217;t have to have faith in a table because you can see it and feel it and put stuff on it.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ralph Waldo Emerson lost his memory in later years and it embarrassed him.  I once read that fish have no memory and that is why it is ok for them to live in a bowl.  Everytime they swim to the other side of the bowl there is a whole fascinating and undiscovered world.  I had a betta fish in a bowl on my desk here. I was so sad when he died.  I used to put a mirror next to his bowl sometimes and he would try to fight his reflection.  No one taught him to fight it was just inately in him to do so.  I think some people are like that. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> I&#8217;m getting off track.<br />
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">Ms. Armstrong’s work is another scholarly breath of fresh air to people that Christianity is more complex and God was often viewed as more apophatic than paternal deliverer of goodness to your prayers.<span style="color: #0000ff;"> what is apophatic?</span> One of her main points indeed is that both </span><strong><span style="color: #000000;">logic and myth have their place in thought, just as reason and emotion have their place in humanity.</span> </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">otherwise we&#8217;d be conformist robots.  We&#8217;d run around killing and pillaging those who don&#8217;t think like us. </span><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think they call that religious wars.</span><strong><br />
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">If you ever studied advanced mathematics (I mean beyond the standard calculus or linear algebra/diff eq course), there are places where “logic” becomes less insightful — Russell’s paradox is an example or invoking Zorn’s lemma just to create something as basic as counting (natural) numbers. What does it mean to the mind that there are different sizes of “infinity”? Yet Cantor, who formalized set theoretic foundations of all modern mathematics, proved that indeed we do have different orders of infinity.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(when you look up Bertrand Russell, Max Zorn, and Georg Cantor you read some pretty heady stuff.  Brilliance and depression seem to hang out together.  I think I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not that brilliant.  They all seem to allow science and fact to co-exist with faith.  I like that.)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Read Ms. Armstrong’s metaphor on music and the limits of human understanding of God. Blanket rejection of faith in such a smug, strident attitude is rather sad and unappreciative of the beauty of a free mind engaging in something fully outside the limited realms of “self.”</span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> I think Johannes is trying to tell us to &#8220;step outside the box&#8221;. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Yes, there is doubt, but faith without doubt is mere credulity as Kierkegaard posits.<strong> Faith is not to simply overcome doubt, but it, like love, transcends rationality. Religion ought to be more than just a set of logical beliefs, as music is more than just notes on a page</strong> and dry theory or mere vibrations or life is more than books, theories, and philosophers. The theory came after the experience, to explain and justify and to share.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I love what Johannes says here. </span><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Love is something you can&#8217;t see or prove, the color yellow is something you can&#8217;t </span>describe to a blind person, yet they exist</span>.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Ms. Armstrong emphasizes that religion is embodied in practice, in action, in process with something greater than yourself. The existence of God is not so much a falsifiable hypothesis, and the semantics of language obfuscate much communication. <span style="color: #0000ff;">Religious zealots, </span></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">the oil industry and the tobacco industry hire lobbyists who do an incredible job of obfuscation.</span><span style="color: #000000;"> Show me where “love” exists. Show me where “music” exists. Show me where “beauty” is. There are many things outside the faculty of logic and language. Be humble and grateful that there is more.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I am</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/inbox/readmessage.php?t=1180679528541#/photo.php?pid=880038&amp;id=1175722364"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-228" title="ozark fall 2009" src="http://www.jabmyeyes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ozark-fall-2009.jpg" alt="ozark fall 2009" width="604" height="401" /></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Isn&#8217;t this a beautiful picture?  There is a guy in our town named Chip Ford who takes pictures for the Lovely Citizen. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I&#8217;m glad there are scientists and philosophers busy trying to find out why a pear smells like a pear or why the beautiful colors represented in this photograph happen.  I guess it all fits in the periodic table somewhere. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> My point is Faith should not be mocked because it is based on doubt.  Faith is the driver for scientists and activists and incredible discoveries that people have made through all the recorded eras.  Faith and prayer saved my son.  I believe in the incredible power of faith.<br />
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<p><a href="http://http://knopf.knopfdoubleday.com/2009/09/22/the-case-for-god-by-karen-armstrong/" target="_self">http://knopf.knopfdoubleday.com/2009/09/22/the-case-for-god-by-karen-armstrong/</a></p>
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		<title>like minds</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I turn on news, or tennis, or golf, or whatever is watched at home  for my patients and it quite often calms them better than any medication I can provide.  They are comforted by the various personalities confirming their beliefs.  A doctor I know said, he likes to go to the Methodist church every Sunday [...]]]></description>
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<div><span style="color: #0000ff;">I turn on news, or tennis, or golf, or whatever is watched at home  for my patients and it quite often calms them better than any medication I can provide.  They are comforted by the various personalities confirming their beliefs.  A doctor I know said, he likes to go to the Methodist church every Sunday to be surrounded by “like minds”.  It is comforting.  My friend feels the same way about the Catholic church.  We form ourselves into groups of like minds and label ourselves as conservatives or liberals or Methodists or Catholics.  We like to be around people who think like we think.  Otherwise, you feel like a freak who doesn’t belong anywhere.  We think thoughts and find people who agree with our thoughts and we hang out.</span></div>
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<div><span style="color: #0000ff;">My conservative friends have labeled me a liberal and my liberal friends seem to agree with me pretty often, I guess that makes me a liberal.   I wanted to know what that was so I looked it up.  Now, when you go to wikipedia.org, and search conservatism they have</span> <span style="color: #000000;">Liberal conservatism, Conservative liberalism, Libertarian conservatism, Fiscal conservatism, Green conservatism, Cultural conservatism, and Religious conservatism. </span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> It all seems to have something to do with the</span><span style="color: #000000;"> Protestant reformation around 1789 and the political balancing of social harmony and common good.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(I used the term “common good” to a physician friend of mine once and he said that was another word for socialism.)</span></div>
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<div id="content"><span style="color: #0000ff;">What I got from all of it was</span> &#8211;&gt; <span style="color: #000000;">Conservatives strongly support the right of property, respect for authority and religious values.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;"> As a homeowner, I’m all over the right of property.  However, I often think that those with authority abuse their power and religion is too often used to achieve said power.  The subsequent abuse of authority and religion is not always so good for us out here in the “common good.”</span></div>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Understanding “like minds” is important.  Learning from the mistakes of history is important.  Free-thinking is important.  Freedom of religion is important.  When too many like minds get together and blindly oppose contrary information than you have “mob rule”.  When you look up liberalism in Wikipedia, you&#8217;ll find the 17th century again and some names like<span style="color: #000000;"> Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Ben Franklin and John Adams.</span> You&#8217;ll also find  <span style="color: #000000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">George Washington</span> argued that a strong federal government was necessary to prevent mob rule. </span>(AKA: town hall meetings where folks show up with guns) .  It is hard to define liberalism in one sentence; it would seem </span><span style="color: #000000;">intellectual liberty, including freedom of conscience, and economic liberty, the right to have and use property, and religious freedom are in the forefront.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff;"> I like all those things so yeah, I guess I&#8217;m a liberal.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I had a Facebook member accuse me of being French when I stated that no one should show up at wars.  Accused me of being French? What does that mean?  I guess the French don’t like war either.  Are there groups of like minds that like war?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We all need to be careful that our innate desire to seek out like minds doesn’t lead us into blind opposition. Blind opposition is dangerous and gets people killed and countries bombed and religions hated.  TV is for entertainment; it isn’t really a good source for facts, although,  it is a great source for blind opposition.  Churches and news stations can be comforting and entertaining.  Leave it at that.</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love to read about politics and religion and sometimes it makes me want to jab my eyes out. My daughter said that to me once many years ago “jab, jab, you make me want to jab my eyes out”. She is very confident and intelligent and somewhat unforgiving. My son, responds to my rambling, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I love to read about politics and religion and sometimes it makes me want to jab my eyes out.  My daughter said that to me once many years ago “jab, jab, you make me want to jab my eyes out”.  She is very confident and intelligent and somewhat unforgiving.  My son,  responds to my rambling, opinionated, rantings with “why do you let things bother you?”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Sometimes, you just want to write your thoughts down, get them on paper, or blog, or comment.  So here I am, stumbling around and falling over some information that needs to be shared.  The authors aren’t always available to me while stumbling; I’ll try to give credit to the sites and authors of information retrieved and commented on.  <strong>Quotes are in black and my comments are blue.</strong></span></p>
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